1. Yet another reason for me not to go ga-ga for Firefox. It's very un-mac-like to have to delete something before replacing it. We're used to drag and drop and clicking "yes" when asked if we want to replace.

Upgrading your browser shouldn't require you to RTFM.

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Laurie

2. Upgrading is the only issue I still have with Firefox. It does the same crap on Windows. It was one thing to put up with it while it was in beta or maybe during manual updates, but the autoupdate feature actually screwed it up too. Really unacceptable.

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Brian

3. Laurie, what do you have to delete? here are the instructions i found on that site:

"Mac users

1. Visit www.mozilla.org and click on the Free Download link and select Save to Disk in the resulting dialog.
2. When the download is complete, quit Firefox by selecting the Quit Firefox item on the Firefox menu.
3. Double-click on the Firefox 1.0.1.dmg file.
4. When the disk image has been opened and mounted, drag Firefox into your Applications folder.
5. When prompted to overwrite the existing Firefox, press OK.
6. Launch Firefox and verify that you have the new version by selecting About Mozilla Firefox from the Firefox menu. You should see Firefox version 1.0.1.
7. At this point, you may wish to drag the Firefox 1.0.1.dmg file and Firefox disk image to the trash."

and this is different from "drag, drop, 'yes' to replace" in what way?

these instructions (as well as this entry) are a non-issue for mac users. now windows automatic update users...that's a different story. :)

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by tr

4. I am completely baffled by the nature of having to jump through hoops to upgrade from Firefox 1.0 to 1.0.1.

I simply did what #3 (tr) describes. Downloaded the new version. Overwrote the old version. And that's it.

I have no encountered any problems in any way.

What is the downside of not jumping through hoops to delete this/that/the other. This post could benefit from an explanation as to what to look out for because as it stands, I don't understand what the problem is.

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Jack

5. I used firefox myself for sometime but just got tired of too many crashes. Recently I've tried out Camino and am absolutely loving it, It does just about everything firefox does, it's faster and looks a bit better too.

All I see and hear are comments about Firefox this and Firefox that, why not ever any mention of Camino, especially on an Apple site? Just a thought...

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Ludwig

6. tr - it never seems to work that way though. pretty much every time i have done a drag and drop install of firefox, overwriting the old version, it stops working. if i delete first, then drag to the applications folder, it works fine. it also likes to balk at being outside of the applications folder sometimes.

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Laurie

7. Laurie, you should really review the site you're linking to in the piece because "TR" is right. The instrucrtions he's posted is what's there. Mount image. Drag new version. Drop into "Applications" folder. Then confirm the replacement procedure.

Which is confirmed by the simple statement:
"5. When prompted to overwrite the existing Firefox, press OK."

No muss. No fuss. An easy install like every other OS X app.

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Jack Szwergold

8. Jack - the release notes (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/), which Scott mentions in his post (yes, i read them too) say:

"All Systems

Prior to installing Firefox 1.0.1, please ensure that the directory you've chosen to install into is clean and doesn't contain any previous Firefox installations."

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Laurie

9. just another idiot chiming in, I don't see what the muss is about if you use a mac - like the others above pointed out, even in the linked article it's 'drag, drop & replace' - it just doesn't get any simpler.

you guys just making us all nervous and crap for nothing.

just a bunch of FUD, move along... nothing to see here.

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Dan

10. I did nothing special installing Firefox on two Windows machines (Me and XP) and everything worked great. The red icon showed up, I clicked it (with FireFox running), the install did its thing, and I haven't noticed a single thing.
Maybe I'm just lucky?

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Willful Expose'

11. I had no problem installing Firefox 1.0.1 over the old version, both on XP and my girlfriend's Powerbook.

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Pete

12. Laurie, up late coding--it's the best time to code!--and Scott doesn't mention that URL in the initial post at all.

He does mention release notes in passing, but note you are now pointing to contradicts directly the "Detailed instructions for upgrading to Firefox 1.0.1" that clearly state that one can simply overwrite the file.

Sorry to bang the point into the ground, but this post is just baffling and contradictory. The article linked to does show how painful it can be to update on a Windows machine, but on a Mac it's easier than changing a lightbulb. And others seem think so as well.

What I can't stand about "cautionary" posts like these is that there are dozens of real issues that people should be aware of. If you're a tech you're already frazzled enough by the real things to look out for. This Firefox issue/non-issue? It's really questionable that it's presented as a tip at all.

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Jack

13. I am not completely sold on FireFox yet. As a developer, I noticed a big difference between Firefox and Internet Explorer while using and image within a div tag using cascading style sheets. In Firefox the image goes beyond the bottom div border while Internet Explorer renders it perfectly by pushing the div box further down allowing for the image to be contained within the div tag.

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Dan Jensen

14. is it only me..or sometimes (more often then not) firefox gives an error if u just type www.somthing.com in the url field, it excepts the http://...

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Toronto Student

15. Yet another reason for me not to go ga-ga for Firefox. It's very un-mac-like to have to delete something before replacing it. We're used to drag and drop and clicking "yes" when asked if we want to replace.

Upgrading your browser shouldn't require you to RTFM.

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Laurie

16. Upgrading is the only issue I still have with Firefox. It does the same crap on Windows. It was one thing to put up with it while it was in beta or maybe during manual updates, but the autoupdate feature actually screwed it up too. Really unacceptable.

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Brian

17. Laurie, what do you have to delete? here are the instructions i found on that site:

"Mac users

1. Visit www.mozilla.org and click on the Free Download link and select Save to Disk in the resulting dialog.
2. When the download is complete, quit Firefox by selecting the Quit Firefox item on the Firefox menu.
3. Double-click on the Firefox 1.0.1.dmg file.
4. When the disk image has been opened and mounted, drag Firefox into your Applications folder.
5. When prompted to overwrite the existing Firefox, press OK.
6. Launch Firefox and verify that you have the new version by selecting About Mozilla Firefox from the Firefox menu. You should see Firefox version 1.0.1.
7. At this point, you may wish to drag the Firefox 1.0.1.dmg file and Firefox disk image to the trash."

and this is different from "drag, drop, 'yes' to replace" in what way?

these instructions (as well as this entry) are a non-issue for mac users. now windows automatic update users...that's a different story. :)

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by tr

18. I am completely baffled by the nature of having to jump through hoops to upgrade from Firefox 1.0 to 1.0.1.

I simply did what #3 (tr) describes. Downloaded the new version. Overwrote the old version. And that's it.

I have no encountered any problems in any way.

What is the downside of not jumping through hoops to delete this/that/the other. This post could benefit from an explanation as to what to look out for because as it stands, I don't understand what the problem is.

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Jack

19. I used firefox myself for sometime but just got tired of too many crashes. Recently I've tried out Camino and am absolutely loving it, It does just about everything firefox does, it's faster and looks a bit better too.

All I see and hear are comments about Firefox this and Firefox that, why not ever any mention of Camino, especially on an Apple site? Just a thought...

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Ludwig

20. tr - it never seems to work that way though. pretty much every time i have done a drag and drop install of firefox, overwriting the old version, it stops working. if i delete first, then drag to the applications folder, it works fine. it also likes to balk at being outside of the applications folder sometimes.

Posted at 5:23AM on Dec 19th 2005 by Laurie